THE ARCHIVE ORGAN INTERVIEW......1996
CHARLIE'S ANGELS

 Right, we were in the pub across the road from the ORG Records office with three members of Charlie's Angels - we have Nadia and Charlie, two of the three singers, and we have Nick, the guitarist.....

 Let's have a dive into the tape and see what they've got to say... hey, there's a recording of Manuskript doing Gangsta's Paradise over at the Underworld on here on this tape as well as a Charlie's Angels interview.... I  forgot I taped that.....

Charlie's Angels in the pub over the road, this is what they said after the Manuskript bootleg...
  So tell me about the tour then? What's the worst thing about touring with PJ And Duncan?

   Organ interruption number one: I suppose that before they answer this deep and probing question I should explain a few things for those of you at the back who haven't been paying attention - Charlie's Angels, mega pop stars and ORG Records recording artistes (that's our label you know) have just been out on tour with those cheesy Geordie kiddy Saturday morning pop stars PJ & Duncan  - they just invited the Angels to do it, about twenty five days in packed-out venues like (gulp!) The Royal Albert Hall...

now answer the question you three.....

    Nadia: Um. yeah....it was so much fun, I can't think of anything bad....

    Alright, what was the best thing? I already know what the worst thing was, those scary girls who hang around the backstage doors screaming and threatening to attack anyone who looks like they might know how to get into the dressing rooms!

  Nadia: Yeah, scary groupies! There was this one really huge butch girl and they were like hanging around the corridors of the hotels and stuff....

Nick; Yeah, fortunately we didn't know where PJ and Duncan because they were so scary the girls would have told them straight away

Charlie: Some of them really wouldn't believe us, they were getting nasty - only one or two, most of them were brilliant.

Nick: The worst thing was having to listen to that awful Stepping Stone thing that's their new single every night....

Nadia: Oh, I love their version, it's so much fun....

So what are Charlie's Angels about? You've confused everybody now with this tour

Nadia: I think we've made it very clear with this tour...

Charlie: Have we confused people?

Oh definitely, people keep phoning me up and asking what the hell is going on, because you have a couple of singles out with ORG, people keep thinking you're going to be some kind of Punk rock band - or at least like Bis or something

Nick :I thought it was pretty much the most punk rock thing in the world to do actually...

Nadir: I thought it was well hardcore!

Nick: We've got this pretty dangerous 'Yes' policy actually - we just say yes to everybody and everything, we just can't help it.

Charlie: That was the perfect tour for us, it's what we're about, it's where we want to be...
Yeah, definitely

Charlie: IT'S FUN ! ! !

Is that the main word with Charlie's Angels then? Are you about having fun? Is everything you do fun?

Nadia: Everything has been pretty amazing so far - the tour was such an experience, I mean, I've never seen anything like it before in my life, all those screaming girls....

Charlie: Two thousand screaming girls every night - screaming at us for three weeks and that was so great...

Nadia: Because our music really has to go out to more than just people in little indie venues in London. We just got a fantastic opportunity to say "Hey girls, here we are" - it was mostly girls, and they were all screaming at us.....

I read in a review in the NME a couple of weeks ago that really pissed me off - it said you were a contrived A&R man's dream, something that had been manufactured by a record company...

Nadia: Fuck right off!!!

Charlie: What !

Nick: Well if that was true we'd have been signed to a major by now...

Nardir: If that were true then I wouldn't be here in the pub now, I'd be having a massage and a manicure, being attended to by slaves... you just don't get that with ORG records!

So come on, tell the story of how it really  happened....

Nick: Oh you know all this already....

No I don't actually - the first I knew of you was when you did that gig with Angel Cage at the Powerhaus and I was drunk and said I wanted to put your records out.

Nadia: You mean you were drunk when you first said you wanted to put our records out!

Nick; We've been telling loads of radio station and newspapers how we formed for the last three weeks of this tour.....

Come on, tell the world!

Nick: Well it was certainly not with the help of some A&R man or a record company - it was just Charlie, Nadia and Diana mucking around.....

(Diana is the third singer, she wasn't in the pub for the interview, indeed she was with Scaff the bass-playing demon and the drummer in the mad trousers who goes by the name of Lisa - they were too busy having their nails done by the nubile slave boys we employ on their behalf here at ORG)

    ........in Charlie's bedroom, and then one day I came along and it got a little more serious

How did it get to the first gig then?

Nick: Well it was my fault really, we were messing around in bedrooms, then one day we hired a rehearsal room.....

Nadia: ....and we went in there with this look of fear and took lots of beers and arsed around in and there were all these mean looking heavy metal guitarists staring at us like we shouldn't be allowed in there....

And then you played two gigs, one at the Splash and one at the Powerhaus. and then disappeared...

Charlie: Yeah, that's because we lost our drummer.

Nick: And because in rehearsals we just mucking around, we weren't really thinking about gigs then...

Nadia: Things like The Splash and the Powerhaus gigs were just fun, we were just doing it for the hell of it - it was just hysterical, I think...

Were you surprised when other people took it seriously?

Charlie: Yes!

Nadia: Suddenly I went, oh shit, maybe I should as well. anyway you didn't take it seriously, you gave us a bad review in Organ...

No I didn't... I said you were great and were going to be fun for 15 minutes -  thought it was like trashy punk rock, the Shangri-La's meets Flying Medallions and I liked Nick's dress....... I didn't know you were going to come in six months later with a tape full of brilliant pop songs! So when did you start taking it seriously?

Charlie: We've been serious for about a week now....

Since you finished the tour and started to panic about what you were going to do next?

Nadia: Yeah, I reached crisis point yesterday..

    (There's a hell of a lot of giggling going on in this tape....)

So who do you want to tour with next?

Charlie: Someone with loud guitars!

Have Napalm Death called back yet?

Nadia: I don't want to do Napalm Death! Who started that one... it was in the Splash fanzine that we were going to do that..

They came to your gig at the Monarch...

Nick: I want to play with them, but only once....they're up for it, if they've got the guts to play on the same stage as us...

Charlie: We don't want to do another PJ & Duncan tour right away....

Nick: Something different -

Nadia: Another tour like that would be too predictable.... people are expecting us to do that

Why not? Nothing wrong with it...

Nick: Nothing wrong with it but we want to do lots of different things, we've got loads of ideas, we don't want to be a formularised pop 'product' but we don't want to be just another indie band doing the same things as a million other 'indie' bands. We want to do loads of things, we want to be in Smash Hits and on Top Of The Pops and at the same time we want to put out 7"ers with fanzines and release albums of our silly messing around four track stuff.

Nadia: I want my poster on schoolboys' walls...

Nick: We've got to put our silly B-sides out...

There's a lot of good new fresh bands with new ideas who are tired of all that 'indie' formularised marketing and are making their own rules - Bis would be the best example at the moment....

Nick: Yeah, kind of, they're great but they're nothing like us, I think we're in two different worlds, really. I couldn't see them going out on a PJ & Duncan tour...

Who knows, maybe they'd love to.

Nadia: Maybe, but I don't think they'd pull it off and go down so well, they're a different thing... they just wouldn't work on a PJ& Duncan tour.... that was the beauty of that tour for us and it was so right for us to do it - we're the only guitar band in the world who could have pulled that off... we can easily do tour like that and at the same time we can play with people like Pura Vida down in Camden.

Nick: The PJ & Duncan people were really nervous about us doing it, they didn't think it would work, by the end they loved us, they said we were amazing...we were going on first of four bands at 7.00PM the hardest slot of the night and every night we had the whole audience standing on their seats blowing whistles and screaming for us....

Yeah, it was amazing, everyone was in place and ready before you came on, none of this "oh we're only here for the headline band, we'll turn up late rubbish" and when you came on stage they went crazy... but what about the first night when you didn't know what to expect?

Nick: Amazing...

Nadir: Terrible, I was shitting myself before we went on, I felt sick, I think we all did....

Nick: But that audience, they go to the concert to have the night of their lives...it's not just another gig down at the Dublin Castle or something....So on the fist night the house lights went down and we walked out in the dark and there was just this massive scream and it was like "Wow" and then once we got use to that we had to work on keeping it going all the way through.... and we managed it..!

Did all the bands?

Charlie: No, we felt so sorry for the other bands when the audience sat down again

When I was giving out flyers and talking to the audience there were loads of girls saying "yeah, we loved that, we want to do it, how do you get started?" Did you get that?

Charlie: Yeah, loads of it

Nick: We'd be in the hotel and there'd be girls all over the place trying to make contacts with important people and then they'd come and ask us how we got started.... and we'd tell them they should just go and do it, make tapes, do it like the indie bands do, just do it yourself, that's what we did - we told them all to send tapes to the Organ
 

Yeah, I noticed you've told people thatm we're suddenly getting loads of demos from bedroom pop bands!

Nick: I don't see why pop bands should be totally manufactured by record companies and management teams and things... we told them to write their songs, record them on tapes, start fanzines, send tapes to fanzines.

Nadir: Just do it -  we did! It really pisses me off when people say we're manufactured, we did this ourselves and we're on this record label that started as a fanzine... we're real, if ORG hadn't put out our first single we would have put out our own tape or something, we got our first gigs at the Splash club and the Powerhouse totally by ourselves....

NICK: And we don't want to create this pop star aura, we don't want to be untouchable, we're just the audience who got up on stage... we're just the same as the people dancing at the front, that doesn't make us any less glamorous or important or whatever, just take away that superstar aura... PJ & Duncan should come and play the Splash with us!

Nadir: We're itching to play at the Splash next week

Nick: The thing is, I don't see why the rules should be any different for us than all the other millions of bands out there.....when our first single came out the music press moaned that we were on a small label in a ghetto and we should get out on to a big label and make great pop records...then when we made our second single and it was all produced and big and poppy and we went on a big tour and got on Big Breakfast and The White Room and on the radio then the music press moaned that we were too glossy and manufactured, even though we're still on ORG... By their rules we can't win! They won't write about us now, they say it's all a gimmick!

And daytime Radio One said you were too pop!

Nadia: Ha ha ha, can you believe that!?

Nick: We're just making our own rules up, we're going to put our fanzine out next and play some gigs with some loud guitar bands... we're having fun, we don't care...

Charlie: No one is having more fun than us right now

And what about these cover versions you do, you do that Take That song quite a lot - it should be your next single if you ask me, split 7" with Napalm Death..

Nadia; Stop going on about Napalm Death - they probably don't even wash!

But what about that Nirvana song you do?

Charlie: What? How did you know that....

I have spies everywhere, I hear you do a great version of Heart Shaped Box?

Nadir: How spooky, you're having us watched...

Which is nearer to your hearts then, Take That or Nirvana?

Charlie: it's the same thing really, we love them both...

Who have you been listening to on the tour bus then?

All: Bluetones!

Charlie; WE WANT TO GIG WITH THE BLUETONES! SOMEONE TELL THEM...

Nadia; The Bluetones were the tour band....

Nick: The Bluetones and Abba, we were all singing Abba songs on the bus -

Nadia: Prodigy, Madonna, Supergrass....

Nick: Take That, the Take That Beatles medley, that's a good one.... Blondie....

Nadia: Oasis

So what was the worst thing that happened on the tour then?

Nadir: Probably nothing more than hideous hangovers every morning, I mean some people were taking it so seriously....and we were pretty full on every night, we showed those pop bands how to party properly...

Nadia:  And how to mosh - you should have seen the venues with no seats when everyone was down the front - you could see them panicking and looking scared - 'I've never done this before.. hey, this is fun !'
 

And that was it, off they went in their record company limo to be attended to by the ORG slaves

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